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9 responses to “Bitcoin Myths, Report 27 Oct”

  1. Regarding bitcoin, whether it can become the money or not, there are several uses for it right now and several huge advantages to holding it over the US dollar, though of course, it is easily susceptible to being speculated on. First of all, there is no counter-party risk. If a bank where you are holding your dollars goes under, you may never see those dollars again. And banks may fall in domino fashion. Second, bitcoin’s growth is not subject to human manipulation (The trading of it IS subject to manipulation in that more than 90% of bitcoin transactions never go on the blockchain, affecting bitcoin’s price, but how many new bitcoins are issued and the rate at which they are issued cannot be tampered with). These two things alone make it vastly more valuable than fiat currency. Further, it cannot be counterfeited. It is true that the transaction throughput is not great right now for bitcoin, but there are a lot of developers working on that and a solution will most likely be found. Yes, it is extremely volatile, however, (to a lesser extent) so is gold and silver in terms of the dollar. But it is all relative. Is it the dollar that is volatile in relation to bitcoin? Yes, I understand what you are saying. It is the dollar that is accepted and not bitcoin. But that can change in an instant.
    Other factors. Incentives can be figured to make bitcoin desirable to merchants. Millions of dollars can be transferred in bitcoin without government-inspired questions from banks sending out a wire transfer and the bitcoin will arrive much faster and at lower cost. Bitcoin transaction costs are generally less than a dollar now.
    Whether theoretically bitcoin is or can be money or not, when confidence in the dollar plummets, as is bound to happen with negative interest rates creeping in more and more (Trump is urging the Fed to lower the Fed rate to zero or below.), people will be hysterical to get into gold and silver, of course; but also into bitcoin, because of its qualities (and into other cryptos). Bitcoin is like gold except it is far easier to transact in and all the (verifiable) transactions are recorded on the blockchain. There can be no backroom deals as with gold. What gives gold its value? Gold has little utility except as being used as money (well, status in the form of gold jewelry, too) and as a store of value, but why is it a store of value? Because of its superior qualities as money. Same as bitcoin.

    1. how many new bitcoins are issued and the rate at which they are issued cannot be tampered with

      This is one of the babies discarded with the bathwater. Tampering, by connotation, is not a sound practice; but flexible quantities are both necessary and potentially as sound as physical assay or proof of work. When a currency supply is inflexible it acts like a sclerotic artery that cannot swell or shrink to handle the changing blood flow of the economic engine at work; systolic pressure spikes and the engine is overworked to overcome the friction of an inflexible circulatory system.

      1. Sounds like you are a monetarist, a theory made famous by Milton Friedman, where a monetary system is treated as not being able to be trusted to regulate itself. How has human intervention worked out? Less than 50 years after going off the gold tether, we have huge debts around the world and bond interest rates are falling deeper and deeper into negative territory.
        The only thing wrong with the gold system is that governments are always trying to beat it, dishonestly trying to stretch the money supply more and more while affirming that its currency is still fully backed by gold (Eventually that affirmation becomes no longer trusted). This happened until 1971, when Nixon announced that US obligations to other governments would no longer be exchangeable into gold.
        But the staying power of gold over the millenia is proof that it is a great money as long as governments are disciplined. Bitcoin is even better because it takes all money creation out of the hands of governments.

        1. Au contraire! I said nothing that advocated “tampering” with the money supply or requiring “intervention.” Of course I am against “dishonest” attempts (by governments, bankers or anyone) to “stretch” the actual supply of base money. I just want to point out that all the hope for bitcoin becoming the currency cannot rationally be based on its inflexible supply. Gold is money, its supply is exceptionally stable, but notice how it is not rigidly bounded.What was once gold standard currency was, in fact, bank notes and bills that were backed in various ways by gold (either on deposit, or on-the-fly in well-examined transactions). This currency had a decidedly flexible supply but not one which was centrally planned. Circulation credit was not granted by government powers, it was a specific market-based activity undertaken by depositors and investors who assumed modest risks in the money markets of the day. One might argue that bitcoin could act as a gold-like base money for such markets and hence could become the “backing” for a sound currency. It wasn’t designed to do this, and I think it would be sub-optimal in that role, but it’d be a rational argument. The hope that bitcoin blockchain is going to fulfill all transaction needs for currency is vain and you should not tout it as a possibility.

          1. Also–money supply elasticicty is not a Monetarist (Milton Friedman or otherwise) concept. Simply read the opening statement of the 1913 Federal Reserve Act it is the second- or third-priority purpose for having a Fed (although no central bank is needed to make a currency supply elastic, and its provision hardly justifies enacting the Federal Reserve system).

          2. Gregory,
            Approximately 2% additional gold is mined each year when compared with the existing gold stocks. 25 bitcoins are mined every 10 minutes and that is going down to 12.5 bitcoins per every minutes at the next bitcoin halving. Both are small flows to stock ratios, the only difference being that the increase in the number of bitcoin can be known to greater exactitude than gold. So how is the supply of gold flexible or elastic? It only becomes flexible when institutions and governments are playing fast and loose by issuing more paper backing the gold than the gold they possess. This is not possible with bitcoin – that is a huge advantage in bitcoin’s favor over gold. I am not going to argue that bitcoin must be the world currency, or arguing against it, either. I am just saying, look at the advantages bitcoin has over fiat and over gold, one of the biggest ones being that bitcoin’s rate of issuance and appearance in the blockchain cannot be manipulated by anyone. That one quality alone makes government unable to fool with bitcoin, which is something gold cannot accomplish. Do you realize what that means? It would make it practically impossible for governments to fight wars for lack of funds, as all bitcoins are accounted for on the blockchain.
            During and after WWI, the pressure to go off the gold standard was insurmountable, with huge war expenses having been racked up. There is no way those debts could have been paid off without governments stretching their currency in relation to the amount of gold in existence (Is this the kind of flexibility you are talking about that is necessary?) or outright going off the gold standard.

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