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11 responses to “Cash is Toilet Paper, Market Report 23 March”

  1. Keith, accepting the logic and merit of that assessment, we do still need to understand the persistent market-crashing tactics such as no rational seller would contemplate. I am referring to the periodic offers of a cajillion ounces into illiquid, often holiday-related futures markets that can’t possibly absorb the volume without major price dislocation. Please explain who is doing what to whom, and why? Dan

  2. I love the title and I hoped you would expand more on that idea. Everyone is hoarding so much toilet paper now, so it probably has a high stock-to-flow ratio and is the most marketable commodity, and could potentially be the extinguisher of debts. And there’s an unverified post on the internet about a restaurant accepting it as currency: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/feg6t7/craptocurrency/

    P.S. There’s a typo in the first paragraph: “The gold-silver ratio hit a hit”

  3. Digi Dan, I gave this matter some thought a couple years ago. By piecing together facts with logic, I will tell you my conclusion. It is not an intentional market-crashing tactic and the seller is entirely rational. It is difficult to impossible to find this explained anywhere so I won’t certify that this is entirely true.

    You need to understand the mechanics of the repo market. Briefly, banks need to satisfy cash liquidity ratio requirements every day. If a bank comes up short of the cash it needs it seeks to borrow it from one that has an excess of cash. It could call a few thousand banks looking for an overnight loan, but instead a “repo clearinghouse” is run by JP Morgan. Banks which have cash to lend will post the list of collateral they are willing to accept and banks that need loans will offer what they have what from that list as collateral. Collateral might be Treasury bills, notes, bonds, corporate paper, or gold. This potential collateral is already on deposit with JP Morgan so it is already being held in “street name”, i.e. JPM. In normal times of course paper instruments are used. But in times of panic or tight liquidity the interest rate is rapidly moving all over the place and no lender wants to make a loan at 10% if they could get 25% a few minutes later. But there is always a bid for gold so its price is known. So that is what is accepted for collateral (“gold” being paid-up Comex warrants, etc.) Now the lending bank wants dollars, not gold, so it tells JPM to sell it (and buy a call to cover its collateral commitment?). Of course other banks taking gold collateral have given the same order to JPM also. JPM can’t favor one bank’s order over another, so it puts in one order to sell, say, 20 tonnes of gold at 3:01 AM. There is no “working the order” to try to get a better price. The big players in the global gold market know what’s going on and will drop bids through the floor.

    Anyway, that’s my conclusion. If anyone actually knows how it works, please post and feel free to correct anything I “know”.

    1. Thanks, Donald. You describe a repo margin call. I guess it’s possible, but I would have thought the professionals would describe that way from time to time. I’m skeptical. The name(s) of the seller(s) are always known or easily identified by insiders, but we never learn them or any other details of these pink-elephant trades when they happen.

  4. Is it possible that the supply of spot gold and silver can be artificially increased by the issuance of “unallocated” paper contracts? If so, wouldn’t this issuance of unallocated contracts apply greater downward pressure on the spot price (increasing the basis) than if the spot price were based on actual physical metal?

    1. Yes. I have made this point on here in comments on past articles. The response was along the lines of “show me anywhere, where I can sell my gold higher than the quoted spot price”. It’s a tough thing to rebut as the problem would not become evident until a severe crisis and mass requests for physical redemption overwhelmed the ability the redeem physical by the custodians.

      Ronan Manly and Koos Jansen at Bullion Star did a very good study years back. Many physical gold ETFs and foreign central banks claimed to have their physical gold at the bank of England. The authors tallied up the numbers of total reported “gold held in custody” versus “gold claims” in the LBMA / Bank of England system. The numbers simply did not add up. Of course, some gold could have been voluntarily (or involuntarily?) leased out. Still, the study raised a lot of doubts about the ability to make good on physical delivery if there was a sudden mass request.

      There is also a very large component of spot gold trading conducted in foreign exchange cross pairs.
      Example: Japanese trader sells yen at the bid of the JPY/XAU in the forex market, pays the ask of XAU and holds a “gold” balance with a broker dealer, which is likely severely unallocated.

      The potential scale of this is why there are some so called “conspiracy theorists” saying that if the problem were to be large enough – There could be a sudden “cash settlement” of the outstanding gold claims rather than physical settlement. Likely the settlement would occur on a Sunday night or on a “bank holiday”.

      If suddenly all of these entities / individuals who thought they “owned gold” realize they do not, you could in theory have a sudden gold price spike a large order of magnitude higher.

      Never have seen Keith successfully rebut it. It’s difficult because it is essentially unprovable until when / if it were to occur.

      1. I don’t think you need to be a conspiracy theorist to conclude that “spot” supply is increased due to unallocated settlement. The concept of “unallocated” is possible only with monetary metals because it is hoarded rather than consumed.

  5. Hello,

    Can anyone explain or make a comment about zerohedge articles saying there is a lack of gold because the futures are much higher than the spot?
    I mean, i though that there is a lack of gold when it is the opposite (backwardation). Even the “fundamental price” at $1201 show that they are wrong.

  6. Mr. Keith points out the truly obvious. For every buyer, a seller. That’s how markets work. After seeing a period in which prices increase, all one can say is that buyers were (in that time frame) more urgent in their bidding than sellers were in their selling, and therefore buyers were more dominant in controlling the price action. Thus, higher prices.

    See how simple this is?

    Of course the reverse is also true. Stay tuned on that score! We have the entire retail market — us included for the most part — absolutely foaming at the mouth thinking that higher prices are a DONE DEAL…. but we have YET to exceed the previous high near $1700. This has the potential to be VERY bearish. I’ll concede this however — if gold closes the week/month above $1700 I will grant my fellow bulls their due. Until then color me: Skeptical. And until such time as price confirms the bullish interpretation, I am a seller.

  7. Your basis/cobasis arguments are interesting, but they pre-suppose the shorts in a given trade can actually deliver. Once supply tightens (like now) , and delivery failure becomes increasingly likely – your argument has no merit.

    Your idea inventory is somehow being pulled out of the system, thus creating the shortage – is a specious one. There is more gold above ground right now than at any point in Human history. The only plausible explanation for the shortage is the comex quoted price is false. There can be no doubt if the comex price quoted tomorrow for Gold was $20,000 or silver $500 – we would have all the supply we need. As such, the shortage is a matter of price – nothing else.

    Appreciate all you do, enjoy your articles very much.

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