CEO Keith Weiner Quoted in Asset Securitization Report


Published on May 26, 2022 CEO Keith Weiner’s commentary was featured in an article questioning the role of the “bond vigilante” by Amilda Dymi in Asset Securitization Report.

Keith discusses how impactful supposed ‘bond vigilantes’ are, and if they can truly impact the bond market.

“There is no such thing as a bond vigilante in today’s market, there are certainly traders who can bet on rising bond prices (long) or falling bond prices (short). These traders are making short-term bets, typically with leverage.”

Keith also discusses the difference between nominal and real interest rates.

“The actual rate at which an actual lender actually lends to actual borrowers represents the “nominal” rate. The “real” rate represents the difference between the nominal rate and an inflation figure that few can agree on. If the bond yields 5% and inflation is running at 2%, the real yield is 3%.”

Keith notes that in the past, interest rates did not increase for any sustained period of time. He added that rates only increase steadily if consumers borrow more. The last time that happened was the 1970’s, a period notorious for its inflation.

“I don’t believe the Fed can push rates up very far, or hold them very long, before it precipitates another crisis of defaults. So long as the outlook is for higher rates, everything from mortgage-backed securities to corporate bonds could get hit.”

Read the full article here.

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