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6 responses to “How Is Negative Interest Possible? Report 8 Sep”

  1. Keith, nice column. Here’s a possible additional explanation re: the increased silver volatility. Let’s assume that algos are the basis for much of the volume and price changes we see. These algos take the most recent trend and project forward the most likely outcome.

    But what they fail to take into account is that other market participants are also using the same algos that corrupt the basic iteration of the risks, trends, etc. by their very existence. (Too many cooks spoil the broth) The volatility is thus amped up by these automated second guessers by exaggerating a directional impulse. But over the medium or longer term, the outcome is no different in price – just a wilder ride in getting there.

    I think this is what Soros meant by reflexivity.

    If true, this offers a tremendous opportunity for option writers who benefit from higher time premiums over shorter time periods, thus reducing the potential for capital loss over the period of a buy-write option when you add back the higher premiums.

    Seems to work only with silver, not gold, not S&P.

  2. “One might not want to bet on a falling ratio with leverage, but it’s hard to see the case for betting that the ratio will rise.”

    Agree. If a bull market in PM’s is in our immediate future, re-visiting 90/1 seems entirely unlikely, if not 86/1.

    But bullish sentiment has been extreme in both metals for weeks, with gold prices finally reaching major resistance levels in the $1500 – $1600 area. Unsurprising, it’s almost impossible to find an article or interview that speaks poorly of gold now. Which means investors/traders are bullish, excessively so, and have already exhausted their existing capital to buy. That makes a reversal lower highly probable.

    For starters, unwinding at least part of the mammoth 300,000 long gold positions taken by hedge funds and other trend following players seems like a given. In the past, such large scale liquidations have taken a full year to complete. Perhaps with evidence of a big-picture turnaround, however, losses will be more subdued this time around. But that, too, is a bullish assumption. All we know with relative certainty is that longs rarely take a more aggressive position than the one they have now. Prior tops in gold have looked almost identical in this regard.

    Thus, for long term holders of gold who expect to weather the corrective storm the most important question is this: Where are you wrong? (In market parlance, “where’s your stop?”) i.e., what would indicate that the recent $500 rally in gold is over… completely kaput, with a full re-test of the 2016 lows the most probable outcome? Are we even considering that seemingly outlandish possibility?

    Naturally, most would consider a break back to $1,360 – $1400 well within the realm of possibilities. But what happens if gold declines below $1,350, $1,300 or worse? When will you sell… or are you willing to hold gold regardless of price?

  3. “The interest rate is the spread between money held outside the banking system, and money held inside the banking system.”

    Thanks, this article clarifies what interest rates should be. I’m not sure of the answer to the title question though, other than to note that interest rates inside the current regime of circular IOU’s are … unhinged. Specifically, the savers have no way (no market) in which to “push back” against too-low rates, because they have nowhere to escape, is that it?

  4. “We have the very model of a modern monetary mechanism (apologies to Gilbert and Sullivan).”

    Were they alive now, imagine the send-up they could do of the current madness. “Pirates of Penzance” would be recast as “Pirates of Planet Earth” ( and probably 3 times as funny . maybe )

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