Monetary Metals Supply and Demand Report: 8 Sep, 2013

Welcome, we have a new name and a new format to reflect that this is fundamentally about looking at supply and demand in the gold and silver markets. For an introduction and guide to the concepts and theory, click here. The gold price was flat, and silver was down slightly. Is the long-awaited, much-discussed silver [...]

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  1. gracer says:

    Is it possible that with so much gold held by the investment community in the form of paper – ie ETF’s that the traditional basis relationship (ie gold always in contango) has changed? What if, as seems possible this year, the investment community has begun to relinquish it’s large paper gold position as the market believes that the debt deleveraging of the last 5 years is gradually subsiding. This would explain the marked turnaround in bond yields which in turn have significantly reduced the degree of negative real interest rates (a key gold fundamental). Were this to be the case, then heavy forward selling of gold would ensue (since this is where the long investment position lies) and in the process overwhelm the gold spot market and drive the gold basis, counterintuitively, into backwardation. If this is the case, then the recent back may not be a bullish signal at all.

  2. rabobank says:


    I carefully read some of your articles, and I want give you some comments:

    1) the world, the market are not just simple as to use a single number to predict, if it is simple, no one can make profit, or there will be no market

    2) you theory has some flew points, some are fatal: investment buying is also demand (especially in Silver, which also has industrial demand). it will effect your basis itself. You must understand, even if Silver is abundant (as you say: Basis is positive and up), investment can suddenly absorb entire supplies. sentiment and demand interact each other, or say, supply/demand will affect itself.

    3) you say JP morgan is not manipulating market. I totally not agree. PIC in JPM will leave probably this year, DOJ are investigating, and JPM already sued by lots of consumers in other commodity market, if you don’t know, you should check Bloomberg, check CNPC or Reuters, evidence is here. they are honored especially in Gold/Silver market and remain crime in all other market?

    4) if you check daily delivery report or daily trading records there are numerous evidence that JPM is manipulating and make numbers/charts you read. from Feb to June, JPM issued around 92% of total COMEX gold delivery from his in house account and his customers account, it is obviously not you called “Free market”

    5) no one store silver, there are not plenty of silver in Central banks or governments.

  3. rabobank says:

    today’s news from WSJ:

    Fed seen limiting banks’ commodities operations. The Federal Reserve is expected to soon publish guidelines that would restrict banks’ involvement in physical-commodities businesses. The new rules, which would be designed to limit banks’ risky activities, could accelerate the withdrawal of JPMorgan (JPM), Morgan Stanley (MS) and Goldman Sachs (GS) from sectors such as metals warehousing and power generation, where GS and JPM respectively have been accused of price manipulation.

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